Proof wrote:TL;DR Don't fucking bot. You're worthless if you do and I refuse to raid with you or be around you.
Sorry Proof but I bot...
Proof wrote:TL;DR Don't fucking bot. You're worthless if you do and I refuse to raid with you or be around you.
Krazyfrog wrote:Proof wrote:TL;DR Don't fucking bot. You're worthless if you do and I refuse to raid with you or be around you.
Sorry Proof but I bot...
Proof wrote:Firstly. Just fucking don't.
Proof wrote:That's too bad. Its my $15 a month not yours.
Tyronian wrote:Proof wrote:Firstly. Just fucking don't.Proof wrote:That's too bad. Its my $15 a month not yours.
Numerical wrote:Everyday Lately I come to the forums and there is some dramatic thread being made. There are ways of putting yourself across and there are ways to alienate yourself with people.
People who bot don't share it. People who bot have no guilt attached to them.... They know the risk they are running by doing it.
I did read your post. Several times. While I completely understand your point, I just don't see the point in making some huge post about the subject. When it happens, it's already done. Like skel said people will be removed / not welcome back. I have done it on many occasions for all sorts of reasons and I agree... Why do it? Why let your team mates down?
But I have to say, this has been too much of a sweeping statement for my liking. Too much finger pointing and aggression and this is NOT what this guild is about.
If you have something to say? Say it privately. Come to a leader etc but please don't cause drama or insinuations.
Btw. I am sure you had no intention on doing that but everyone reads things differently. Please be mindful of that.
Proof wrote:Argalin wrote:Horses are good and beautiful animals. High horses are eating a bit too much grass.
I understand your hatred for botting, I'm right there with you. But this big sweeping judgmental statement from atop said horse is only going to cause drama that you've shown you don't want directed at you.
There is a time and a a place for protest of such things but whether or not you meant it to sound like it, threatening all your fellow raid members doesn't endear you to anyone. People expect things like this to be said from people in a position of authority otherwise it just sounds hollow and accusatory.
Did you read the post at all? Where would the drama come from besides people who are for botting? I even stated it wasn't a threat. Just a statement of fact. I know for a fact not a tear would be shed if I left nor would it hinder the team in the slightest. And last time I checked any member of the guild is allowed to state policy. Nothing I have ever done with the PM team has been to endear anyone to me.
Fact of the matter is there are people in this guild who thinks it is ok to bot. I made this post purely for the purpose of letting those people know that botting isn't accepted by the guild and should not be accepted by team members. I speak for myself and no one else.
To insinuate I'm atop a high horse is arrogant even for you Argalin. Please try to stay on topic or don't respond. And as far as where people "expect these things to come from", any team member is allowed to state guild policy and their opinions on a PUBLIC forum. I have not accused anyone individually. Merely stating the actions I'm willing to take to protect myself. You don't agree with those actions? That's too bad. Its my $15 a month not yours.
SGTMinor wrote:It's cheating, literately cheating, not figuratively, not kind of. It's a 100% cheating this post didn't seem to offensive to me but, the fact that people are mad that someone is angry about people cheating. the fuck is that? How can you guys be offended for someone being at mad you for cheating? what? i don't get it. If you cheat, and someone offended you for cheating, i think that comes with cheating. And if you don't like it, don't cheat. IT IS CHEATING.
Krazyfrog wrote:SGTMinor wrote:It's cheating, literately cheating, not figuratively, not kind of. It's a 100% cheating this post didn't seem to offensive to me but, the fact that people are mad that someone is angry about people cheating. the fuck is that? How can you guys be offended for someone being at mad you for cheating? what? i don't get it. If you cheat, and someone offended you for cheating, i think that comes with cheating. And if you don't like it, don't cheat. IT IS CHEATING.
I believe the issue with the post is not the message that it presents but the way it was presented, and honestly your response is just a catalyst in that flame.
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