What is you favorite live action space base Sci-Fi series?

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Alrcari

Re: What is you favorite live action space base Sci-Fi serie

Post#16 » 08 Jan 2012, 10:55

Tharia wrote:Wiki Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon
Wiki Tokusatsu Japanese genre

In a nutshell, not a sci-fi. I apologize if my persistence seems hostile, it's not my intention.


I don't take it hostile, but in my research and experiences with anime/manga, things are never black and white with anime/manga translations hehe. Most of the wikis are based on user submitted information (and sometimes the companies submit it). The IMDB, which also tracks all the movies out there for reference, and is also based on user submitted information. I would consider both reliable means of getting information on your favorite manga/anime show.

The original question was: What is Your Favorite Live Action Space Base Sci-Fi?

I said I would be smacked by my daughter for not mentioning Sailor Moon as her and I had a very long discussion about the manga and anime and the differences in styles of Japanese shows. The Sailor Moon and the Sailor scouts weren't limited to Earth and indeed dealt with outer space, specifically the moon and the solar system. There was indeed a Live Action version of the show made and it was listed in the IMDB itself at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386917/, both the standard version of the IMDB (which lists it towards the bottom in the list of Genres) and the pro IMDB at http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0386917/?d=tt_header_moreatpro version which lists it at top. Note the IMDB list one of the genres for the show as SCI-Fi.

So in summary there, the show I mentioned, was a live action show and it was classified as Action / Adventure / Fantasy / Sci-Fi.

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As for my personal views -

As I said, no matter which way the Wiki spins it, there are other sites that view it differently. The actual creator for the live action series was Naoko Takeuchi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naoko_Takeuchi who did the manga and anime.

Taken from her wiki:

Upon completing The Cherry Project she wanted to do a manga on outer space and girl fighters. Her editor Fumio Osano (nicknamed Osa-P) asked her to put the fighters in sailor-suits, and thus began Sailor V. When plans began to turn Sailor V into an anime, she reworked the series and added four other Sailor Soldiers. This became Sailor Moon, which proved a hit. While she worked on Sailor Moon she also simultaneously worked on Sailor V. However, the magazine that ran Sailor V was canceled. The project to turn Sailor V into an anime was canceled with the magazine.


She was also a very big part of the Shojo (sp?) Manga which was basically targeting certain demographics and not any specific genre. I think the Shojo also refers to "girl" type manga as well, the literal translation for it is girl I believe. I also think she tried to achieve a blending of the Shojo Manga and Sentai Genres, thus she came up with Sailor Moon. The Sentai genre is the one that applies to superheroes, the word could be translated as a team, a task force or even a squadron. Likewise they will often have matching colored uniforms and very synchronized poses (and/or phrases), Power Rangers was a good example and so was Sailor Moon. I'm sure there is a whole bunch of others people will remember - G-Force, Voltron, etc etc.

It is true that many of the Japanese shows fall in a particular term like Tokusatsu, but these are usually easy to define (as they required extensive use of special effects to create them). It is extremely popular in Japan. Godzilla, Ultraman, Astro Boy, Power Rangers and a bunch of others all came to mind with your original question.

I think the biggest thing that upsets me about the whole manga to anime is what is lost in the translation, the "dumbed down version" for US import/releases and the fact that many of them don't get multiple seasons. 12 episodes here, 9 there, 36 here, and so on..

I'm not saying you are wrong or right. I'm simply saying, based on what I know, and what I've researched and read, there was indeed a live based version that wound up being classified as a Sci-Fi genre, when in fact, the original author was blending two types of style to create the show. Since the words, "outer space" was included, and they worked in outer space, this made the show "Sci-Fi" in the movies/TV IMDB.

It should really be classified as a Sentai Genre ;)

-Al

Edit: Note, you've now experienced Al's teacher mode ;P /laugh at bell

Tharia

Re: What is you favorite live action space base Sci-Fi serie

Post#17 » 09 Jan 2012, 05:24

I would agree with you, with all the available information, the show ultimately should have been classified as a Tokusatsu Sentai - sure you could throw fantasy, drama, etc. on it as well, but really you'd just be watering down what it really is.

Also, I did watch a few of the Sailor Moon episodes when it was released in North America. I found it lacking the Japanese touch in story and dialogue so I stopped watching it. However, I was curious on what the original Japanese versions were like so I went searching online.... yikes, that's all I gotta say. I only watched like 3 minutes of a single episode, if you've ever seen one then you probably know why. If not, then you are welcome to find out, but don't say I didn't warn you.

Alrcari

Re: What is you favorite live action space base Sci-Fi serie

Post#18 » 09 Jan 2012, 12:28

Tharia wrote:I would agree with you, with all the available information, the show ultimately should have been classified as a Tokusatsu Sentai - sure you could throw fantasy, drama, etc. on it as well, but really you'd just be watering down what it really is.

Also, I did watch a few of the Sailor Moon episodes when it was released in North America. I found it lacking the Japanese touch in story and dialogue so I stopped watching it. However, I was curious on what the original Japanese versions were like so I went searching online.... yikes, that's all I gotta say. I only watched like 3 minutes of a single episode, if you've ever seen one then you probably know why. If not, then you are welcome to find out, but don't say I didn't warn you.



Yeah, I watched them all because it was something my daughter wanted to watch and I sat and watch every episode right alongside her. She's been getting into the Anime and she's actually been bringing them to me to see if I've watched them. If it is something I haven't seen, I watch them with her. Still teaching her how to research her information for the ones she likes so she can find out if they are unfinished, in progress or completed shows. I think the last one we sat down and watched was Sacred Blacksmith.

She still won't read the manga versions of the show, but she's getting the hang of using all my show links to find new series to watch with me. hehhe

-AL

Tharia

Re: What is you favorite live action space base Sci-Fi serie

Post#19 » 10 Jan 2012, 17:22

That's actually really awsome. I'm a little bit jealous.

I've been trying to watch Guyver lately, but now that I'm back in college (final semester), I don't have a lot of spare time. I think I got to ep. 4... maybe 5. Hopefully I will be able to find an hour or two during the weekends to watch a few episodes. However, we are starting to take this thread off-topic. lol

Hayzeus

Re: What is you favorite live action space base Sci-Fi serie

Post#20 » 10 Jan 2012, 23:49

Brenstel wrote:Firefly- WOOT space cowboys...the characters make this series awesome, if you don't know what this is then go to Netflix and stream the series and the movie "Serenity". This is easily the best Sci-Fi show that got canned too early.




Yo i"m so late on this. Just started watching it on netflix and i"m mad already because there is no season two. This series is GREAT! What the hell happen? Why did they stop this and more importantly why the hell didn't i know about this back in 2002 lol.

Rayann

Re: What is you favorite live action space base Sci-Fi serie

Post#21 » 11 Jan 2012, 00:46

Fox hates good shows, we know this! >.<

But there's the movie, Serenity, and the graphic novel/comics to help with the transition from the show to the movie and then beyond the movie.

I <3 the series so much. Whedon is teh God. :)

Alrcari

Re: What is you favorite live action space base Sci-Fi serie

Post#22 » 11 Jan 2012, 07:40

Deeliia wrote:Fox hates good shows, we know this! >.<

But there's the movie, Serenity, and the graphic novel/comics to help with the transition from the show to the movie and then beyond the movie.

I <3 the series so much. Whedon is teh God. :)


Actually, Firefly is now showing on the Science Channel, go figure. I'm not sure if they are doing new episodes or just running thru the old ones but you might want to check it out.

- Al

Brenstel

Re: What is you favorite live action space base Sci-Fi serie

Post#23 » 11 Jan 2012, 07:59

Alrcari wrote:
Deeliia wrote:Fox hates good shows, we know this! >.<

But there's the movie, Serenity, and the graphic novel/comics to help with the transition from the show to the movie and then beyond the movie.

I <3 the series so much. Whedon is teh God. :)


Actually, Firefly is now showing on the Science Channel, go figure. I'm not sure if they are doing new episodes or just running thru the old ones but you might want to check it out.

- Al

After Serenity came out there were talks between Joss Whedon and Sci Fi channel to pick it up but Nathan Fallion was casted as Castle, Summer was casted as the new terminator and that killed it since Joss only wanted the original players.

Dotmatrics

Re: What is you favorite live action space base Sci-Fi serie

Post#24 » 11 Jan 2012, 16:27

Thanks a lot jerks! This thread got me watching Firefly and Serenity again via NetFlix. And what happened? My girlfriend caught me geeking out to these great shows.

Rayann

Re: What is you favorite live action space base Sci-Fi serie

Post#25 » 12 Jan 2012, 01:30

You should show her the awesome-ness that is Whedon-verse! ^_^

And I WISH that they could get the original cast back together, but I'd be terribly heartbroken to try to watch new Firefly episodes without two of my favorite characters. :(

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